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Post by Jim River on Sat May 11, 2013 9:58 am

Indian beliefs
1 Pluralism. Indian beliefs are generally pluralistic, meaning that your beliefs are right for you, and our beliefs are right for us. There's a caveat, however: The religion that is "right" for you is determined by your nationality. I know little about Hopi beliefs, for example.

2 Indian beliefs hold that spirituality is deeply taboo, especially when talking with foreigners.

3 Method of transferring information. There are no Indian sacred texts; we transfer information orally. In fact, most Indian languages have no written form. (And BTW, those that do are significantly different from non-Indian written languages.) Further, it is ONLY transferred in that language.

4 Outlook. Completely integrated into one's lifestyle, not thought of as "religion" as much as a way of life.

5 Ancestors communicate with Indians.

6 Nation-specific. ALL Indians know what nation they belong to, and traditionals practice the beliefs of their respective nations.

7 Faith is based on community.

8 Structure. People have set roles in rituals.

9 Even offering money makes a ceremony useless.

New Age beliefs
1 Syncretism. New Age beliefs mix and match. Mix Hopi prophecies with Lakota ceremonies, as well as non-Indian beliefs such as karma, zen, channeling, tarot cards, paranormal, Western psychology, tantra, and God only knows what else in a haphazard manner, and you've got a typical New Age cocktail.

2 Taboos. New Age has no taboos.

3 Method of transferring information. New Age belief systems usually have MANY books. These books will run anywhere from $5.99 for a paperback version to $29.99 for a hardcover. Many other media are used in New Age.

4 Outlook. Grab bag; views Indian beliefs as compatible with Western philosophy.

5 Ancestors communicate with non-Indians.

6 Generic stereotypes. Obvious mixing, such as totem poles and dream catchers, can be found. Generally speaking, New Agers have only recently discovered their Indian heritage, if they have any at all.

7 Faith is based on the individual.

8 Anyone can be whatever they want. If everyone wants to be a drummer, everyone's a drummer.

9 Money. Rituals are done for money.


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Post by hiorta on Sat May 11, 2013 3:35 pm

Jim, thank you for giving me these.
Does the idea of 'evolution' have any value in Indian life?
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Post by Panama Red on Sat May 11, 2013 6:10 pm

Jim River wrote:Indian beliefs
1 blah blah blah...
9 Even offering money makes a ceremony useless.
10. Plagiarism...

worldwideweb.bigorrin.org/archive25.htm

Jim River type with forked fingers. Suspect

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Post by Jim River on Sun May 12, 2013 10:39 am

Panama Red wrote:
Jim River wrote:Indian beliefs
1 blah blah blah...
9 Even offering money makes a ceremony useless.
10. Plagiarism...

worldwideweb.bigorrin.org/archive25.htm

Jim River type with forked fingers. Suspect

Never claimed I wrote it, mac.

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Post by Admin on Sun May 12, 2013 10:49 am

Oh come on this is not mac unless its one of the copies that are trolling the web. One of you claims to speak with honesty for Indigenous North American Indians one against. My feeling is neither of you are who you claim This forum is not New Age so Jim Rivers comments are invalid Panorama Red's are just plainly rather rude.

Move on Scorpio53 is a genuine Indigenous North American Indian and this is her area of the forum do not deface it needlessly.
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Post by Panama Red on Sun May 12, 2013 10:51 am

Jim River wrote:
Panama Red wrote:
Jim River wrote:Indian beliefs
1 blah blah blah...
9 Even offering money makes a ceremony useless.
10. Plagiarism...

worldwideweb.bigorrin.org/archive25.htm

Jim River type with forked fingers. Suspect

Never claimed I wrote it, mac.
Just copied it and pasted without attribution.

10. Plagiarism...

Panama Red


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Post by Thunder Bow on Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:36 pm

No one here for years! Good thread topic here.
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Post by mac on Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:16 am

To be accurate it's not quite one year since it was running.

The topic probably had limited appeal anyway on a Spiritualist website but even that was greatly diminished by the masquerading - 'trolling' - going on by certain members in various forums on this and other websites.

Regulars at that time will be aware of what was happening and I'm expecting a further, similar occurrence.....

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Post by Thunder Bow on Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:21 pm

Bullies and those who Troll are seeking to control a forum. Topic does not matter. However, it might be interesting to follow through on this topic with out venom and nasty personal comments. See what truths we can uncover.
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Post by mac on Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:06 pm

We'll see if anyone wants to "....follow through on this topic".

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