Psychic Press to go into creditors voluntary liquidation

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Post by hiorta on Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:04 am

It feels that the SNU as a leading, authoritive Spiritualist organisation has been 'gone' for some time, but change, too, is part of it all.

If the folk 'upstairs' cease to be attracted for any reason, they just melt away to better things. Silver Birch gently reminded us that 'what you call Spiritualism, to us is simply the fulfilling of a part of Natural Law - you cannot die'. He also declared that the ordering of such matters in this world was entirely a matter for us.
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Post by zerdini on Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:37 am

hiorta wrote:It feels that the SNU as a leading, authoritive Spiritualist organisation has been 'gone' for some time, but change, too, is part of it all.

If the folk 'upstairs' cease to be attracted for any reason, they just melt away to better things. Silver Birch gently reminded us that 'what you call Spiritualism, to us is simply the fulfilling of a part of Natural Law - you cannot die'. He also declared that the ordering of such matters in this world was entirely a matter for us.

Silver Birch also said:

"If you will co-operate with us, and forgive my saying this because I mean it most kindly, not demand, but be prepared to receive, you will find that in this atmosphere we can accomplish much together. It is always desirable to have unity in diversity, but not to try to achieve uniformity. You can unite on the fundamentals on which you all agree. There must always be differences of opinion because all the individuals within the ranks of what you might loosely call the Spiritualist movement are at different stages of spiritual and mental growth and evolution. They cannot think alike. …

"The great necessity is for toleration. Brotherhood does not mean that you will all agree. It means that you recognize brotherhood in spite of your diversities. That is the only way I can put it. You must try to achieve the ideal. You may not succeed in doing so 100 per cent.

"Go on trying to enlist others, because co-operation is part of the law governing the universe. You should always strive to achieve it among yourselves. After all, basically you are agreed on the prime facts. There are differences of interpretation. Respect one another’s viewpoints and combine on what you can agree. This is not easy. But I always say that generals must not expect to be given easy battles to fight."


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Re: Psychic Press to go into creditors voluntary liquidation

Post by mac on Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:40 am

I guess, as with most matters, we'll wait to see what happens.....

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Post by zerdini on Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:53 am

mac wrote:I guess, as with most matters, we'll wait to see what happens.....

...........not long to wait, mac. Wink

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Re: Psychic Press to go into creditors voluntary liquidation

Post by mac on Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:55 am

zerdini wrote:
mac wrote:I guess, as with most matters, we'll wait to see what happens.....

...........not long to wait, mac. Wink

maybe.... We'll see. Wink

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Re: Psychic Press to go into creditors voluntary liquidation

Post by Admin on Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:45 am

Please look at the latest news which has come out of the AGM and the interim Papers prepared for it. I wonder if, even now, the NEC are trying to pull off yet another cunning stunt.

http://www.spiritualismlink.com/t1117-spiritualist-national-union-psychic-news-sale-to-jv-trust#6003
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Post by Admin on Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:28 am

Since publiceye mentioned the continued attempt by the SNU to register a trade mark registration I have been monitoring the UK IPO site regularly
now if you go to http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/tm/t-os/t-find/t-find-number.htm and type in the number 2560680 you will find the SNU have succesfully registered the Trade Mark

Case details for Trade Mark 2560680
Mark

Mark text:
Psychic News PN Psychic News
Status
Status:
Registered
Class:
41
Relevant dates
Filing date:
06 October 2010
Next renewal date:
06 October 2020
Registration date:
29 July 2011
Publication in Trade Marks Journal
First advert:
Journal:
6888
Publication date:
20 May 2011
Registration:
Journal:
6900
Publication date:
12 August 2011
List of goods or services
Class 41:
Publishers of newspapers and periodicals on the Internet and hard copy magazines [printed publications].

Names and addresses
Proprietor:
Spiritualists National Union
Redwood, Stansted Hall, Stansted, Essex, CM24 8UD
Residence country:
United Kingdom
Customer's ref:
SNU/PN.GJH
ADP number:
0978809001


Service:
Graham J Hewitt
Meadow Garth, High Street, Duddington, Stamford, Lincolnshire, PE9 3QE
ADP number:
0978812001
Earlier rights notification
Opted in for notifications

Notifications sent on 18 May 2011 to:
2557851

So they registered it after they had got rid of one Liquidator and before the new one was appointed. Clearly they must have doubted their own claim of asset ownership so were trying something on to make it more credible. At a guess they will probably claim it was an attempt to register it for some valid reason.

Its very curious because it could be a significant block to anyone wanting to buy the assets of PP 1995 and publish a new PN, unless the SNU assign the Trade Mark. Indeed unless they intended to assign it, once they knew they never owned the assets, it could seriously diminish the asset values. Of course this is to the detriment of the creditors who lost money from their actions in liquidating not selling PP 1995.

It also appears to have been done as quietly as possible. None of us would have known without privateeye highlighting the issue, which is entirely keeping with every step along the way in this matter. Now as we all know we could hope they did all of this for the right reasons. However the history of this sad sorry saga (with the pain it has inflicted on people) would suggest our doubts about the motives of the NEC are well founded.

Hopefully we will soon find out what exactly is happening.
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Re: Psychic Press to go into creditors voluntary liquidation

Post by hiorta on Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:01 am

Would anyone want to be associated with such people?

Just walk away.

The spiritworld are happy to co-operate and work with people of honesty and integrity who seek to learn the truth of 'death'.



The SNU look to be trying to found another 'thou shalt' outfit.
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Re: Psychic Press to go into creditors voluntary liquidation

Post by Admin on Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:08 pm

Well at last the final news is in Psychic News has been bought by the JV Trust. We just need an explanation of why the SNU did not do the right thing and sell it to them back in August 2010.

Being sore losers is not good enough the NEC should fall prostrate on the ground and apologise to all Spiritualists for the lengthy delay and damage they caused by their actions.
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