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Post by Left Behind on Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:37 pm

I never have: but I've heard everything about them, from being a silly useless kid's toy, to a useful tool for paranormal research, to a dangerous thing that one shouldn't fool with.

Has anyone here used one? What do you think?

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Post by KatyKing on Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:03 pm

Amazon UK sell them at prices to suit all pockets from £4-00 up to £70+.
Some nice decorative ones in resin too.
Can't see the difference between using Ouija and the glass and alphabet myself (and most kids will have had a go at that at some time or other) but Ouija has had a bad press. Every time some flaky teenager throws a wobbly and there's been some Ouija board connection however slight then the tabloid press goes balistic,
When a major toy shop in London stocked Ouijas they were picketed by born agains.
I was never fond of first ex daughter in law, she professed but never particulraly manifested Xtianity; so did once consider buying the grandkids a Ouija for Christmas. The ever wise Mrs. K Evil or Very Mad forbade .
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Post by Left Behind on Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:11 pm

I'd agree with Mrs. K., there. It seems that the danger is less in the board than in the attitude of the user. Since they are made and sold by toy/board game makers like Hasbro and Parker Brothers, they are regarded as toys. People start "playing" with them, 'trying to see if they can "talk to the Devil", or some such thing.

I sure don't think that children should be experimenting with them: or adults, who approach them in any sort of sinister or frivolous spirit.

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Post by KatyKing on Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:25 pm

I tried to copy a pic of Amazon's resin Ouija board on here but it wouldn't work. It's a lovely piece of kit, would make a nice coffee table feature cum conversation piece.
I see where you are coming from Jim and it's probably a wise approach. My take though (I am NOT wise) is that all these things should be out in the open, used in a good light alongside the open minded abd mature and then discussed.
There's nothing inherently wrong with a Ouija board or the glass and alphabet it's the attitude society has adopted towards them based on some pretty flimsy evidence that they are in some way 'demonic' and there aint no such things as demons (education 'managers' excepted of course).
For psychic harm done I reckon potable alcohol is a tad more dangerous than Ouija boards and a lot more widespread in use.
Then again alcohol + Ouija board + flaky teenagers = not necessarily a happy combination.
Given half a chance lower level spirits and/or earth bounds will pester the 'willing vulnerable' whatever the context.
So on balance and having thought it through I'd say.....
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Post by KatyKing on Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:26 pm

I'd quite like a resin one for my birthday.
(60 tomorrow!!!! How the heck did that happen?)
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Post by Quiet on Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:48 pm

KatyKing wrote:I'd quite like a resin one for my birthday.
(60 tomorrow!!!! How the heck did that happen?)

Happy birthday Smile. It is tomorrow now, here.

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Post by KatyKing on Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:24 pm

Thanks Q, then I must be 60 already in oz. Not 'til 11 45 pm tomorrow here though. I was fifteen minutes away from being a leap year baby. Then I'd only have been 15 [Mrs K reckons that's about right].
'60 is the new 40' night school students reassured me this evening.
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Post by Admin on Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:47 pm

Well happy birthday youngster
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Post by KatyKing on Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:56 pm

Very Happy Cheers Jim.
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Post by KatyKing on Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:06 pm

When we were kids we did havea go with glass and alphabet but nothing to report as far as I can remember. Some of the lads would try to spook the girls though.
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Post by Admin on Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:22 pm

Here you go Jim, this is a fun site http://www.museumoftalkingboards.com/

Might direct you to a place to buy something. Planchette would be best, insert a pencil and let it write for you.
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Post by Admin on Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:24 pm

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Post by Admin on Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:28 pm

As that last site quotes from one of our early journals
“Planchette” - Reprinted from the "Religio-Philosophical Journal" - July 11, 1891


No other mechanical accessory of psychical phenomena has been so widely used or has produced such sensational results as the little instrument known as planchette. Originally of French origin, as the name indicates, it has been utilized in all parts of the world and unnumbered instances of its effectiveness are on record. It first attracted attention in France about 1857, as near as we can state without authentic data for reference. Many suppose that the instrument had its origin in this country: while this is not correct, it is probably true that it was first made an article of merchandise in the United States.

On this point we have before us an interesting letter, dated May 29, 1891, addressed to Mrs. J. M. Staats, who had supposed the writer to have been the inventor. He writes:“I regret that I cannot throw any light upon the origin of planchette. I was first induced to make it and offer it for sale through an article in the London Once a Week, describing it and its antics. This was some thirty-two years ago. I was the first one to manufacture and offer it for sale, and for this reason I was looked upon as its inventor; I see that such an idea prompted your letter. I also tried to patent it, solely to make money out of it; but the Patent Office declined to give me a patent, alleging as a reason that it was immoral in its tendency; and I must confess that at times its answers were startling, even shocking, to orthodox minds.

I learned afterward that the patent office official who passed upon its merits was a staunch believer in the Westminster Confession, and I was powerless against such narrow-mindedness, and so my patent was denied. Many went to making it; profits were reduced, and seeing no money in it I gave it up.

There are some manufacturers still making it, and it has a sale of at least 2,000 to 3,000 a year.”The demand is much larger than Mrs. Staats’s correspondent estimates and is just now having one of its irregular periods of activity. A series of extended and exhaustive experiments would undoubtedly be productive of data for valuable generalizations. That many messages written with the aid of the planchette are from spirits seems conclusive; but that more of them must be accounted for in other ways is equally as conclusive. Sometimes facts have been given unknown to any one present, at other times predictions made that have come to pass.

Under some hands, there has come at one time messages of the purest and most exalted nature, and at another abominable falsehoods and unutterable profanity. On this point, and in reply to a complaint that spirit communications are not to be trusted, Mr. Thomas Shorter, of England, once wisely remarked: “Well, perhaps that is the very lesson they were chiefly designed to teach you.”

An intelligence claiming to be a spirit gave the following through a planchette:“It is one of the important providential designs of these manifestations to teach mankind that spirits in general maintain the characters that they formed in themselves during their earthly life—that, indeed, they are the identical persons they were while dwelling in the flesh—hence, that while there are just, truthful, wise, and Christian spirits, there are also spirits addicted to lying, profanity, obscenity, mischief and violence, and spirits who deny God and religion, just as they did while in your world. It has become very necessary for mankind to know all this; it certainly could in no other way be so effectually made known as by an actual manifestation of it; and it is just as necessary that you should see the dark side as the bright side of the picture.”
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Post by Admin on Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:31 pm

Actually what I really want is a Communigraph, to save all the trouble of making bookings for mediums.
http://www.spiritualismlink.com/t221-communicating-without-mediums-the-communigraph?highlight=communigraph
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Post by Admin on Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:32 pm

Hi Katy for kindle operators its on the mediumship forum about 8 topics up from the bottom of the page.


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Post by KatyKing on Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:44 pm

Ta Jim.
I'll have a look tomorrow at work.
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Post by Left Behind on Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:39 am

Happy Birthday, Peter! I turned 60 last September.

How much do those resin Amazon boards cost?


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Post by Left Behind on Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:48 am

Admin wrote:Here you go Jim, this is a fun site http://www.museumoftalkingboards.com/

Might direct you to a place to buy something. Planchette would be best, insert a pencil and let it write for you.

It might work. . . I inserted a ball point pen in my own hand tonight, but couldn't get spirit to write. Crying or Very sad Laughing

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Post by KatyKing on Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:04 pm

The resin ones are forty pounds but we've seem an antique style Spirit Board we like. Could look good in a frame on the wall.
Thanks for birthday wishes. I did well. Loadsa cards, shirts a new attache case plus a fob for watch chain suitably inscribed. Came home for b'day lunch cake candles the works now back to work til 9m. Night schools are a pain but all our students work so we have to fit lectures around their timetables.
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Post by Left Behind on Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:40 pm

Admin wrote:Talking of which
http://www.planchettes.com/html/home.shtml

Interesting site. . . but it doesn't seem as though you can order from them. Question


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Post by Margaret Challenger on Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:15 pm

hi, I have one handed down in the family somehow, goodness knows how it came about in the first place but I have used it only to prove a point to the Development Class that there is an intelligence behind it. Of course a lot of people will say its mind over matter - I can only say that during the times I have used it, it has lived up to its reputation - but as I said it was just to prove a point. Can't see why we need to call out the alphabet as they did in 1848 when we have Mediums myself - but each to their own. Margaret

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Post by Left Behind on Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:08 pm

Margaret Challenger wrote: Can't see why we need to call out the alphabet as they did in 1848 when we have Mediums myself - but each to their own. Margaret

My thinking, Margaret, is that it might be a useful aid for someone without a lot of mediumistic ability.

I have no idea whether this is true or not.

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Post by KatyKing on Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:14 pm

The modern planchettes with ball bearing feet are pretty fast I'm told.
Not something I'd use professionally, but for a bit o' fun.....
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Post by Margaret Challenger on Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:20 pm

Can see where you are coming from Jim but there would be no control over the communicating spirit who could mimic whoever the operator wanted them to be - Mother/Father etc: I wouldn't recommend anyone using personally. Conversely, I knew someone who did it on their own with success as far as they were concerned. Another one of those subjects either for or against ha!! xxx

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Post by Admin on Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:47 pm

Good points Margaret, personally wouldn't mind using a planchette in my group. I have done mirror scrying for the same reason. Last time gave me a real shock because I saw a very clear image of my Mother, amomgst other things.

I adapted my instructions for using the mirror from J Maxwells book Metapsychical Phenomena: Methods and Observations 1905
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